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LEARN the BIBLE ??? What happened Gary ???

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Matthew Johnson wrote:

> In article <089.45.07.05.393064000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
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> >Matthew Johnson wrote:
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> >> In article <088.45.18.05.509099000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
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> >> >Matthew Johnson wrote:
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> >> [snip]
> >> >Where does Scripture say that we are saved by our correct apprehension
> >> >of doctrine?
> >>
> >> Actually, it doesn't say this. Neither did I imply that it did say it.
> >
> >Just checking. Salvation through correct knowledge is an old, old
> >heresy.
> >
> >> But someone who stubbornly insists on _wrong_ doctrine, despite all the
> >> effort the Church takes to teach us the correct doctrine,
> >
> >Which Church? Protestand, RC, Orthodox, other? We don't all agree with
> >each other on some points.
>
> Ah, now you have moved the topic to the really interesting question: which one
> of these is the true Church?

I think you're framing the question in terms that preclude an answer.
The Church is not a set of doctrines, or particular structure of
government.

Rather, the Church is the group of people chosen by the Lord Jesus.
That makes it hard to define, because He doesn't always consult us on
who He has chosen.

> It can't be all of them.

Not the way you seem to have defined it. I gave you the defintion of
"Church" that I use; what's your definition?

> But the descent of the Holy Fire in Jerusalem on Orthodox Easter is a
> pretty strong hint, even though I have heard of many Catholics who see
> this miracle and believe it really is a miracle, and _still_ stubbornly
> cling to Rome!

I've never heard of this before. Can you give me a citation? I'd very
much like to learn more.

And how does this square with Jesus' words: "Believe me, woman, a time
is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor
in Jerusalem. ... Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true
worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are
the kind of worshippers the Father seeks." [John 4:21, 23 NIV]

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> >> and teaches this wrong doctrine in opposition to and defiance of the
> >> Church runs afoul of another problem: stiffnecked refusal to submit to
> >> the Body of Christ, the Church.