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In article <084.28.15.05.868102000@srcbs.org>, tuppence says...
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>In post <084.40.09.05.383860000@srcbs.org>, Matthew asks:
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>>What does the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus have to do with
>>whether or not Enoch died? I don't see a connection; Enoch was
>>clearly an exceptional case, not an ordinary one.
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>Well, I was thinking of a bit more of this discussion than whether or
>not Enoch died. For a connection consider counterpoint; whereas,
>neither Enoch nor Elijah may have died, the three men in Jesus' story
>did die. Yet they are not asleep, in some sense they remain conscious
>and active somewhere beyond death. A judgment is implied
>contemporaneous with the rich man's brothers being alive in their
>father's house. So, I was curious what others might make of this story.

I see your point now. And I have to agree: this account, whether you consider it
a 'parable' or not, has always been an embarassment to those who believe that
death is like non-existence.


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Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
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In article <091.30.14.05.894506000@srcbs.org>, zach says...
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>What do you (or anybody) think Jude 1:14 was making reference to?
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>"14Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See,
>the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15to
>judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts
>they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly
>sinners have spoken against him."
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>I am not familiar with any of the Apocryphal writings, nor I am
>attempting an argument, I'm just asking a question in general. Thanks
>to anyone who can answer it.

It is from the Book of Enoch. As far as we can tell from surviving manuscripts,
it is an exact quotation, too. Trying to explain why he quoted an Apocryphal
book has always been a tricky debate.


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Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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(~) Bible Readings for Sunday May 15

Acts 2:1-11
or Ezekiel 11:17-20
1 Corinthians 12:4-13
or Acts 2:1-11
John 20:19-23
or John 14:8-17


The First Lesson Acts 2:1-11