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jj wrote:
> gpatton@bayou.com wrote in news:ACBA1C10-DCCD-E0A0-3574-
> 1A604CE84E40@srcbs.org:
>
> > what was Jesus (in
> > Mark 8:21) wanting the disciples to understand?
> >
>
> That he had already showed that he could take care of lunch, but
> that they should not compromise their understanding or beliefs
> to molify non-believers. jj
>


Jesus told the disciples to do a job. The job he requested for the
disciples was to make boat trip. They discovered that they did not
bring enough bread (a necessity) to make the trip. Jesus warns them to
not try to make the bread by using the ways of the Pharisees or Herod.
Jesus suggest that he will provide the bread.

Could it be the teaching applied not only to bread but to all other
necessities one would need to do a job that Jesus asked? Could not
the teaching be, that one should not put off doing a task that Jesus
request, because one does not feel he has enough of the necessities?
But, rather do as instructed, relying on Jesus to meet the needs?


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In article <094.23.17.05.558390000@srcbs.org>, basicallyblues says...
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>
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>>Another straw-man. Very few of us Trinitarians insist that you believe
>>it is a historical account. And if you have been reading before you
>>reply in such haste and anger, you should know that I am not one of
>>them.
>
>Matthew it is YOU who post with haste and anger.

Anger yes, haste no.

> I guess I should
>inform you that I have received numerous personal emails from folks who
>think you are a hypocrite.

So what?

> I've been warned that you always resort to
>ad hominem, pettiness, and outright misinformation-

And you chose to believe _their_ misinformation. How predictable.

> especially when you
>are losing a debate- which you most certainly are here.

Again: I don't feel like I am losing. And I notice that even Bart agrees with
me.

> So you can say
>what you want but your conduct has been observed.

Or mis-observed. As often.

> Although I have
>regrettably imitated YOUR tactics to a much lesser degree, it is you
>who is guilty of what you accuse me of. Luke 6:42 pertains to you if it
>ever pertained to anybody.
>
>>the point of my earlier rebuttal was that a
>>'supernatural vision' IS of reality.
>
>Elijah and Moses were not there in person on that mountain.

Yes, they were. This is obvious from the context, especially when comparing the
synotpic accounts. For the Markan account does not even USE the word 'vision' to
describe it. WHy should