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>Subject: How many `numbers` are there in Revelations?
>From: fbonsignore@beethoven.com
>Date: 2/7/2005 8:33 AM Central Standard Time
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>I found an uncommon Bible with a Chinese translation. Sikimming through
>it I found in 22 that there is another number used by the people once
>the Kingdom of God is installed on Earth. Is this the same number of
>the Beast or another number? I had never before noticed it, but it may
>be an ommissio on my part after a dense writing or a special edition.
>According to this, both the Beast and the Christ will ask us to use a
>number! Can somebody help me with this doubt?
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What is this "22" of which you speak? Revelations 5:11 "...and the number of
them..." was somewhat more than one hundred million, about 1.5% of the world
population. ? Please cite chapter and verse.

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lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
> Sarah Kanary wrote:
> > wrote in message
> >
> > > Abrahamic Covenant: Gen 12:1-3 "I will" 7 times
> >
> > Already fulfilled.
> >
> ???? Where do you come up with this? In order to conclude that the
> Abrahamic covenant is fulfilled, you have to also conclude that the
> Palestinian, Davidic and New covenants have all also been fulfilled.
> Obviously that is not the case. Are you not aware that they are
> extensions or amplifications of the Abrahamic covenant? They do not
> stand alone.
> >
> > > Mosaic Covenant: Ex 19:5ff "if you will"
> >
> > IF they obeyed, fleshly Israel would be the
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> There are two Israel's and that has always been understood. There are
> the physical descendants and then there are the physical descendants
> who are circumcised of the heart.


If a person disobeyed the Law, intentionally, Numbers 15:30-31 says
that = blaspheming YHVH and that required cutting off.
So if someone disobeyed the #1 commandment, to love YHVH, that means
they are committing blasphemy or acting like a pagan/uncircumcised
person who is not a child of YHVH. So you can say that a person with
an uncircumcised heart is one who does not love YHVH as their Father.
Jews who do not love YHVH as their Father are not His children. They
have been cut off as Mosaic Law requires.
Only YHVH, Himself, would be able to discern a person's heart. We
should be very careful in making such a judgement. If you think that
your statement is so important, ask yourself where you and many other
Christians fall. Is YHVH your Father or do you just want