Hi "entropy"
"entropy" wrote in message
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> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote...
> >
> > "entropy" wrote in message
> > > gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote...
> > > >
> > > > wrote in message
> > > > > So reading
> > > > > your bible, though very admirable, is not enough. One must have
true
> > > > > faith, believing Christ is God and that the Holy Spirit is God as
> > > > > well, instructing us in the truth of His revelation. Without the
Spirit,
> > > > > you are only capacitated to humanistically reason what this or
that
> > > > > passage speaks of. Word & the Spirit. You must have both or you
have nothing
> > > > > at all.
> > > >
> > > > One must not only read the Bible, one must believe it to be saved.
> > >
> > > That is not Scriptural. What the Bible says is that belief in Christ
> > > is saving, not belief in the Bible per se.
> > >
> > > John 3:16
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > But we need to realize that "salvation" is used in more than one way
> > in Scripture. One can be "saved" from shipwreck, saved from sickness,
> > saved from physical death, saved from all kinds of error, and other
things.
> >
> > What John 3:16 refers to is salvation from sin.
>
> Perhaps you could take another look at John 3:16:
>
> "...shall not perish, but have everlasting life."

That is what I mean. When we are saved from our sins,
God gives us eternal life and imputes the righteousness of Christ
to us.

> Isn't that what the salvation of Christ is primarily about?

Yup.

> > If people believe Scripture they are saved from all sorts of error.
>
> Yes, like the proper attitude of a slave, or of a master of slaves.
> Wouldn't want to get either of those wrong...
>
> I do understand your meaning, but the salvation that Christ died to
> make available to us seems contingent on our faith and belief in Him
> rather than belief the Bible per se. Or, at the very least, belief
> in the parts of it that aren't printed in red letters.

True, but to have faith in Christ we must know Him and
His promises. John wrote:
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the
Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his
name.



> In my very humble opinion.
>
> > Further, as Christ said,
> > John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he
wrote
> > of me.
> >
> > Thus we see that a believing of the B