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Stephen M. Adams wrote:

> Bart Goddard writes:
> >adamst@no.spam wrote:
> >
> >> Are you admitting, then, that 'faith without works is dead' and that
> >> such workless faith can not save? In other words, there is no salvation
> >> without faith AND works?
> >>
> >> That is quite clearly what James says.
> >
> >No, you're not being clear here. The distinction between
> >"Faith alone" (Salvation comes only through faith) and
> >"Faith alone" (Faith is never by itself, but is accompanied
> >by works) is being blurred. God is in the details, and the
> >details here are the prepositions. Does "by" mean "by
> >means of" or "next to"?
> >
> >The issue here is whether James is saying that works accomplish
> >some portion of salvation or that saving faith is always
> >accompanies by works.
>
> Let me ask this - since you seem to agree that works will always
> accompany saving faith, are those works *voluntary*?

Yes. A goat that has been transformed into a sheep will act according
to its new sheep nature.

What a goat cannot do is transform itself into a sheep, either by will
or deed. That change must come from above.

> Can man fail or refuse to do them??

Sure. While we have been transformed, our transformation is not yet
complete.

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In article <9ED6D30A-CADF-63CC-31F9-C655882535EC@srcbs.org>, Mike Rhodes says...
>
>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:42:25 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Johnson
> wrote:
>
>>In article <77B26004-64A5-C1B3-AAE5-EEB60C414509@srcbs.org>, Mike Rhodes says...
>>>
>>>On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC), "ruth"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Sarah Kanary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The individual books of the "NT" were written by individual Jewish
>>>>> > Christians,
>>>>>
>>>>> Luke was a Gentile.
>>>>
>>>>How do you know that?
>>>>Ruth
>>>>>
>>>
>>>All three of my Bible dictionaries, Easton, Fausset & Smith, state
>>>that Luke was a Gentile. The proof given was that he was not named by
>>>Paul as one of the circumcised in Colossians 4.
>>
>>That is not a very convincing proof. There could have been other reasons for
>>leaving him out of the list.
>>
>
>And other reasons for so strongly stating his Gentileness, such as
>writing a rather odd 'gospel'. And that address to "Theophilus". How
>Roman does that sound to you? The dictio