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Gary McNees wrote:

> Matthew Johnson wrote:
> > In article <115.51.06.05.622976000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> >>>Since you have not free will, I think that this is the
> >>>consequence.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Romans 7 explains this nicely.
> >
> >
> > It does? Then why does the _interpretation_ of Rom 7 differ so sharply
> > between you, myself, and Gary?
>
> Matthew, I think we are much closer together theologically than I am
> with any Calvinist. To my mind, the denial that God is love, is a far
> greater heresy than any I can think of that I would attribute to you.

No Calvinist denies that God is love.

>
> Compared to God hating (salvifically) most of humankind, as the
> Calvinists teach, our differences about OSAS, faith, etc. seem to me to
> be insignificant.

I've already explained to you why this summary of Calvinistic doctrine
is wrong.

>
> We both teach a gospel which is good news for all men (or at least can
> be). We both believe that God is infinitely GOOD, and in Him is no evil
> whatsoever. The Calvinists see no error, no harm, no problem, in
> teaching that God actually hates (savingly) most of His creatures.

Does God not have the right to make some creatures that are devoted to
destruction? Does that make Him any less good, or any less love?

> He, in fact, creates the vast majority of His human creatures so that He
> can torture them eternally! He provides NO POSSIBILITY OF SALVATION =
> Limited Atonement. He make them so that they cannot choose to believe and
> come to Christ = Total Inability = No free will. I think that these
> doctrines are infinitely more heretical than our differences.
>
> But that is just my opinion.
>

What makes you think that your opinion of what is good is actually what
God says good is?

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wrote:

> Bob Felts wrote:
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > After you answer me that simple question, perhaps you can tell me
> > > where the laws came from to begin with and why aren't they also
> > > evolving?
> > >
> >
> > How do we know that they aren't? Isn't there still some question about
> > the constancy of, say, 'c' or the cosmological constant?
> >
> IF the laws are not constant then there is no standard left.

Not necessarily. There may be a "meta" law, with which we aren't yet
familiar, which explains how current laws/constants are changing.

> The problem is, all men operate under t