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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:

> God does not and cannot just say anything at all. God cannot lie. But
> your god can lie. And on top of that then define that lying is good.

You sooooooooooooooooooo don't get the point here. It's not that
God can lie and then define lying as good, it's that if God speaks
something, His very speaking of it makes it true. If He says
"the earth is flat", then the earth becomes flat. He doesn't lie,
He pronounces.

The universe conforms itself to God. Not vv, as you would
have it.

Bart

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Zach wrote:

>The Psalmist is talking in the general sense. Who is his audience?
>Humanity.

In the larger picture it is but at the time it was for Israelites who
were required to now the Pentateuch (as it was later called). Genesis
5:24 was certainly known by them. Psalms were composed for song and
poetic praise.

>Enoch was a special case. His audience would not care about
>one special case since it is not applicable to anyone else.

Well you do realize you are just assuming this. It is just as
reasonable to think it would be silly to ask a question like: "what man
is he that liveth, and shall not see death?" when the answer could very
well be: "Enoch can!"

>Speaking
>proverbially, one does not include the exceptions, robbing the message
>of its power.

But if Enoch had not died the message would have no power. To ask such
a rhetorical question would not be persuasive at all. If Enoch was an
exception there's no reason there couldn't be other exceptions so why
bother to ask it.

The statement "what man is he that liveth, and shall not see death?"
would have ZERO merit if somebody had lived and beat death. The
meaning of the psalmist's rhetorical question is that NOBODY has beat
death. To claim "Oh but Enoch was an exception" is simply a case of
denial. Enoch died.

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"entropy" wrote in message
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> gepsmith@cablespeed.com wrote...
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>> entropy wrote:
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>> >How is 'works' supposed to be defined?
>>
>> George Smith says:
>>
>> An excellent question! I think that there are as many answers as there
>> are people in the world. Every action you take, every word you say,
>> every word you write comprises your "works".
>
> I sincerely appreciate your answer.
>
> But if works are whatever we