matthew_member@newsguy.com wrote:


> No, that is not what he said. Again: tell me which passage you are
> misinterpreting and I will explain
> o you how you _should_ have read it!

If that doesn't sum things up, nothing does. And you
call me arrogant? This is why no one takes you seriously.

Bart


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In article <165.10.16.05.520603000@srcbs.org>, dell12345 says...
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>Your explanation of “After death, one is in eternity and all events happen
>in the eternal ‘now’” is not supported by the Bible.

You must be talking to Bart. Please configure your newsreader to show this.

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>Regarding Luke 23:43-
>
> The explanation that I gave is very sensible to sensible people.

No, it is not. It is not 'sensible' at all.

> As I
>have said the reason why Jesus said “Truly I tell you today, You will be
>with me in Paradise” is because the promise of “You will be with me in
>paradise” was comforting and gave one of the evildoers hope.

And that would be a pretty poor reason.

> Jesus
>preferred to tell one of the evildoers that promise “today”, at that
>time, instead of waiting for the future where Jesus will say “you’ll be
>with me in paradise”.

But this is just circular reasoning.

> Texts about paradise see Rev 2:7- To him that
>conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise
>of God. , See also Gen 3:22-24 (tree of life)

And what do you hope to accomplish with this citation?


>The phrases “I tell you TODAY or have told you today” and the usage of
>the word Today . See examples.

I saw the examples. They do NOT support you. For they are different usages.


>2Ch 18:4 And Jehoshaphat said unto the king of Israel: 'Inquire, I pray
>thee, at the word of the LORD today.'

This is obviously different. For he is telling to king to do something today.
Christ is doing no such thing in Lk 23:43. So you achieve nothing with this
citation.

>Jer 42:21 - 21 And I tell (nagad) YOU today (yom), but YOU will certainly
>not obey the voice of Jehovah YOUR God or anything with which he has sent
>me to YOU.

Similarly, there is no parallel here, either. Perhaps you would have noticed
this if you got the _tense_ of the verb right! It is "I have told", not "I
tell". So again, not at all a convincing parallel.

Recall: what you need is "amen, I say to you today". But what you gave us was "I
have told you today". Completely dif