gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:

> "Al Smith" wrote in message
> news:3E4DB432-8974-A547-3434-0D0038041906@srcbs.org...

>> Predestination did not have the advantage of Chaos Theory. The
>> behavior of chaotic systems cannot be predicted by any mind, no
>> matter how powerful. Not even by the mind of God. I put it to you
>> that the human race is a chaotic system
>
> I don't see any advantage of Chaos Theory. It is just
> Chaotic! And absurd to boot.

It's pretty clear that neither of you know what you're
talking about. "Chaos Theory" refers to a mathematical
"chaos", which is very different from the usual meaning
of the word "chaos." Mathematical chaotic systems only
appear to be chaotic, but their behavior can be quite
predictable.

And I sure wonder where Al got the axiom that no mind can
predict the behavior of chaotic systems. If that were true,
we wouldn't be able to generate pictures of fractals with
our computers.

Bart


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Stephen M. Adams wrote:

>
> Read on....(Note to Bart - this is addressed to those who insist that
> all doctrine and practice must be dervied directly from Scripture - I

> know that's not your position).
>
> What is Sola Scriptura?
>
> Given what many Protestants claim for their foundation, the most
logical point
> of approach is to begin with the Holy Scriptures, for if their
position on the
> Scriptures is incorrect, then their entire system is undermined, for
it then
> has no grounding.

And just what is the alternative? The legitmacy and efficacy of the
principle of autonomy? If this is accepted, then there is no need for
the idea of God speaking to men to begin with. It is exactly because
man *cannot* speak intelligently to himself without God and because the
sinner has sent God out of his life that God in condenscending grace
comes back to him. But He asks men to accept Him at His word for what
He is: the indispensable presupposition of all intelligent human
predication. This in turn declares the creature to be what he is
essential -dependent. Sola scriptura rest upon the internal testimony
of the Spirit even as He testifies to the assurance of our salvation.
And when one actually thinks this through, all the indication of the
divinity of Scripture would lose their effectiveness and would actually
accomplish the very opposite of what they are meant to accomplish if
they were taken out of their relation of utter dependence upon the
testimony of the Spirit. Objectively, then, these indicators do show
the Scriptures to be the living Word of God.

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