Bob Felts wrote:

>
>
> Only because you insist in trying to set free that which isn't free.
>
>
>>God works in man to will (Phil 2:13).
>
>
> "According to _His_ good pleasure." No freedom for man there.
>

Hi Bob:

I'd like for you to expand on your idea of man not having
free will.

Tell me, every time you sin, is it God causing you to
choose to sin?

Since you have not free will, I think that this is the
consequence.

Thanks, Gary

((( s.r.c.b-s is a moderated group. All posts are approved by a moderator. )))
((( Read http://srcbs.org for details about this group BEFORE you post. )))

lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
>Gary McNees wrote:
>
>> Pleeeese! James says outright:
>>
>> James 2:21, 25, 25
>>
>> Surely you can do better, Loren.
>>
>Is James teaching the doctrine of salvation from the same perspective
>that Paul does in Romans? No. James is teaching the issue illustrated
>by Christ when He declared, "Your sins are forgiven." However, men do
>not have the ability to draw conclusions about the hearts of men
>except, "Take up your bed and walk," i.e. external evidences. James is
>merely teaching that there is an external expection if in fact, as one
>might claim, there had been an inward confession.
>
>Yet it still remains true, the internal always preceeds the external.
>"Surely you can do better than this?"

The only place where the words "by faith alone" appear in the Scriptures,
they are preceeded by the word "NOT."

That's pretty clear. Pretty literal. Or is this one of those 'special
exceptions' to your rule of reading the Scritprues literally?????

-Stephen
--
Space Age Cybernomad Stephen Adams
malchus842SP@AMgmail.com (remove SPAM to reply)

((( s.r.c.b-s is a moderated group. All posts are approved by a moderator. )))
((( Read http://srcbs.org for details about this group BEFORE you post. )))

matthew_member@newsguy.com wrote:


>>Your spitting and hissing carries no weight for us, because
>>1. we already knew that we daily sin much and are guilty
>>of breaking all the commandments and 2. we're confident in
>>our forgiveness.
>
> And that confidence is the 'confidence' of those who say
> "Lord, Lord", yet not do what the Lord commanded.

Note to Gary: Maybe you're enjoy the fact that Matthew seems
to be on your side. But note that he, unabashadly, espouses
a "faith plus works" formula for salvation. You should
take it to heart that your chief ally in the battle of
"free will" preaches works righteousness.

Bart


((( s.r.c.b-s is a modera