gpatton@bayou.com wrote:

> gilgames wrote:
>
>><<
>>Dale DePriest
>>
>>We can certainly understand some of what God wants but as you say he is
>>different from us and we cannot fully understand God until we get to heaven.
>> >>
>>
>>Yes
>>
>><<
>>Not true. The concept that Christ would suffer is in the very first
>>prophecy in Genesis 3:15 where God says to Satan that he would bruise
>>heel of the seed of woman and Christ would bruise his head.
>
>
> That was a serpent, not Satan. The serpent spoken of in Genesis is not
> the serpent/dragon Satan written of in the book of Revelation. God
> commanded that the serpent of Genesis 3:14 go(slither)upon his belly,
> but on the contrary Satan, as the Bible says, stands and walks.
>
> To find the old serpent/dragon written about in the book of Revelation,
> check out the serpents/dragons in the books of Isaiah, Job and the
> Psalms.
>
Whether or not you believe they are the same serpents the prophecy in
Genesis is definately aimed at Satan, who the Bible said entered into
the Serpent. The judgement against the serpent itself is also given in
Genesis 3 but this particular statement certainly does not apply to the
serpent.

Dale

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>
> Gary McNees wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't agree. It was "free will" that the person was
engaged
> > in talking on the phone, or not stopping for the red
light.
> > What you are saying that a person after jumping off a
cliff
> > no longer has the freedom to stop his fall. If this is
what
> > you mean by "free will" then I agree. But the person
used
> > his freedom to jump in the first place.
> >
> This only goes to show that you do not know what
"free-will" involves.
> I have illustrated this repeatedly. To "freely" choose
either Ford or
> Chevy is not "free-will." Either choice has but a single
goal -a
> selfish one. Choosing to stop at that red light or
choosing not to
> stop, is not a "free-will" choice. Again, both actions
have but a
> single goal -to serve self. At one moment it will be
self-serving to
> stop and obey the law. At another moment, it will be
self-serving to
> run that red light. Either way, both choices only involve
how self is
> served.

I misread the above