"dell12345" wrote in message
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> Jesus is rightly called God (in the sense of Mighty God, not Almighty God)
> and only-begotten god (John 1:18).
>
> Jesus SHALL/WILL (Future tense) be called Mighty God, a position given by
> him by the Father. This happened after his resurrection. This is the name
> Jesus INHERITED according to Heb 1:4. So it is also right to call Jesus
> God (meaning Mighty God) at John 20:28 but this is referring to Jesus'
> resurrected state. But this doesn't mean that Jesus is the Almighty God
> because, at John 20:31 it stated "31 But these have been written down that
> YOU may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because
> of believing, YOU may have life by means of his name". The Father, IS
> ALWAYS the ALMIGHTY GOD.

Well... that certainly is a load that you can't substantiate from Scripture.
Case closed.

Rufus


>
> In this same chapter (20:17) Jesus said: "I am ascending to my Father and
> your Father and to my God and your God."
>
>
> The illustration is still valid, human judges at Bible times are called
> "gods". See Psalms 82.
>
>
>
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gpat...@bayou.com wrote:

>Jesus died because he got in the way of powerful people. And the only
>way they could get him out of the way was to kill him. And those who
>could have stopped those who wanted Jesus out of the way, did not have
>what it takes to stop them. So evil people condemned Jesus and put
him
>to death.

No doubt about it the Pharisees wanted to remove Jesus because he was a
challenge to their authority- same wiitht he Romans for the charge of
sedition was a threat against Caesar. BUt why did God allow Jesus to be
brutally murdered? Why did Jesus allow it when he could have summoned
"twelve legions of angels" to obliterate his enemies? Afterall one
angel killed 80,000+ persons in the past.

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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:


> I still do not agree. On the one hand some Calvinists state the
> man is RESPONSIBLE for his actions, but on the other hand,
> they also believe that God causes all his actions.

This is not a logical contradiction. You're using an