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"Matthew Johnson" wrote in message
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> In article <132.12.09.05.480738000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
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> >> And yes, I have seen from your previous posts that you do insist on
> >> this same false dilemma. Worse yet, when the evidence was presented
> >> to you that it _is_ a false dilemma, you ignored it.
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> >No evidence has been presented.
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> That is not true. It has too been presented. Do the search yourself in
> Google if you don't believe me. Since your claim is so excessively
> broad, I cannot give you the search terms to use, but start with Ez
> 18:23. I already explained to you in detail how this passage refutes
> Calvinism. You had no rebuttal.
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> Once you see that Calvinism must be, and is refuted by Ez 18:23-32 (at
> least, in a _faithful_ translation), you will see that there MUST be a
> third way, even if you cannot see what it is. And that puts an end to
> your false dilemma.

Matthew, haven't you seen yet that the Calvinists treat Scripture
in the same fashion as do the JW's.

Every passage which clearly contradicts Calvinism is CHANGED,
mutilated, twisted, and otherwise perverted, and made void so
that they can continue to hold onto their corrupt diabolical Calvinistic
system.

Ex 18:23 is but one of hundreds of Scriptures which must be so
treated for them to maintain their false system.

Here is what the corrupter of Truth John Gill says about the verse:


Ver. 23. Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the
Lord God, &c.] Perish by sword, famine, or pestilence, or go into captivity;
this, though the Lord's will and work, yet is his strange work; mercy is his
delight.

So by a mere interpretation that when God days here "die," He refers not to
damnation, but physical death! All of us die a physical death, and certainly
this is not what God is saying. But as I said, the Calvinist will do or say
absolutely anything to hold onto their corrupt system.

This is to be understood not absolutely; for the Lord does take pleasure in
these things,

Here we see the common practice of Calvinists, telling God that He doesn't
know what He is saying! God just says that He DOES NOT TAKE PLEASURE IN
these things, but Gill knows better, God really does take pleasure in them!
(What a wonderful thing is the "secret will of God - a will that can be used
as "trump" card at will for the Calvinist, whenever God says the very
opposite of what Calvinism teaches!) The same technique is used by all
Calvinists, and with every verse which contradicts their system, e.g., that
God desires all men to be saved!

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