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Stephen M. Adams wrote:
> lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
> >Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>
> >> On the basis that a literal reading of 1-day == 24 hours is not
> >>required by the text.
> >>
> >Based on what? Is it required then that God is the actual creator
or
> >that he even exists? The problem with allegoricalism is that its
> >limits are never truly determined, they are always relative to the
one
> >who is doing the "determining". Who gets to say that within the
same
> >verse, this aspect is literal and that aspect is symbolic?
>
> And yet, in another thread, you said that the 'literal' reading did
> permit for metaphor, typology, etc. Which is it?
>
I've already answered this objection today. We are speaking of
hermeneutics. There are principles involved. Normative interpretation
is what you are using right this moment. I'm sure you did not
allegorize "I've already answered this objection today" to mean a
billion years ago.
>
> >
> >Where do I begin? I have a note book full of scientific proofs.
>
> All of which make a bold assumption that *observation* can answer
> the question. Of course, you reject it:
>
God created us in His image. Creation reflects His nature. It is
ordered and therefore can be studies based upon laws and assumptions.
So there is no reason to argue that one cannot reasonably conclude,
based upon the order of the universe, whether the cosmos is young or
old.
>
>
> We can't trust MY observations, but we can trust yours and those who
> you represent here? Give me a break. Either we can trust
observation
> or we can't. If we can't, then you have no grounds either! If we
can,
> then it becomes a competition of competing observations.
>
Again, the context goes back to a literal interpretation of Genesis
which declares that man sinned and is therefore berift of his original
derivation of God's revelation. Certainly we can assess what is and
draw rational conclusions, but we must also agree that it is only based
upon a presumption that God is the creator. Even the secular
evolutionist bases his arguments upon the Christian position that there
is an Orderer. Man does not operate off of any basis pertaining to
chaos being the final reality.
Nor did I say we can't trust your observation. If your observation
remains consistent to the laws of the universe, then there must be some
truth involved. Now lets not argue semantics, lets argue facts.
>
> By the way, if we can't believe anything we see, hear or observe,
then
> there is no possible way to proclaim the gospel, or even to be saved.
> After all, you