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Matthew Johnson wrote:

>
> >1:19-1:32 Gentile -condemned
> >2:1-29 Jew -condemned
> >conclusion:
> >3:10-18 all men -condemned
>
> Wrong. For what the Law says, it addressed to those under the Law.
This is NOT
> all men. Remember: Job was NOT an Israelite.
>
For when Gentiles, who do not have the Law, do instinctively the things
of the Law, these not having the Law are a law unto themselves. Rom
2:14

So there has always been a moral law. Job was under law, he just
wasn't under the Law. Man was under "law" from the first "You shall
not eat of the tree of good and evil" because man is always being
tested in this life time (to one he gave five talents, to another two
and to another one) to determine his place in eternity.

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gpatton@bayou.com wrote:
> Gary McNees wrote:
>
>
>
>>What "church?" You claim that the "true" church is
>>the Lutheran. Matthew claims it is the Orthodox.
>>Just about anyone can claim that "their" church
>>is the only real or correct church.
>
>
> In my opinion only the stupid think their denomination makes up the
> complete church.
>
> I, and most Presbyterians, look upon all the Christians in the world to
> be the church. We demonstrate this in that we accept any baptism of
> any denomination as valid, which means we recognize people of your
> denomination as Christians just as we are Christians. We think those
> who think that only those in their denomination are members of "the
> true church" to the exclusion of others to be a bid stupid, but stupid
> Christians, not unchristian. We don't say that those who can't have a
> meaningful worship service unless somebody brings a snake, are not
> Christian. They are just confused Christians. A Christian of one of
> the off-brand denominations, is just as Christian as those of the main
> line denominations.
>
> Let us not have any of that "my church is the true church, and other's
> are not" bigotry. Of course us Presbyterians are very fortunate to be
> what we are, but other Christians are just as much loved and valued by
> God as are us Presbyterians ;-).
>

I agree. Except for the one part about Presbyterians being "fortunate." :)

Gary

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Matthew Johnson wrote:

> In article <089.45.07.05.3