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Bart Goddard wrote:

> wrf3@stablecross.com wrote:
>
> >>
> >> "....the Son of the Living God." Yes, it's the same.
> >>
> >
> > "Israel is my firstborn son..." [Ex 4:22]
> >
> > Are they the same?
> >
>
>
> Yes, in the sense that Israel is a type of Christ.
>

So now we have to believe in the DoIT to be saved?

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In article <085.59.16.05.407678000@srcbs.org>, basicallyblues says...
>
>
>
>>Obviously you have become
>>frustrated by your inability to defend your own position
>
>I have defended my position and proven it. People can look at the
>various posts and decide for themselves.

And when they _do_ look at the posts, they see you have NOT proven it. Far from
it.

What they see is that you list long strings of irrelevant citations, citations
that do not support you AT ALL, and then call that 'proof'. What they see is
that you sink to wild accustion of 'apostasy' instead of honest refutations.


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Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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Matthew Johnson wrote:

> In article <172.29.21.05.878860000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
> >
> >Gary McNees wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >No, it just means that you doggedly cling to salvation by works
> >underneath your faux-orthodox exterior and deny grace in the very core of
> >your being.
>
> And why would his 'faux-orthodox exterior' be any worse than yours?

Because if I'm wrong, at least I'm consistent. Given my druthers, I'd
rather be right. But if I'm going to be wrong, I'd rather be
consistently wrong, than "all over the map wrong". Gary is "all over
the map wrong."

> For you too, deny the orthodox teaching concerning free choice of the will
> (liberum arbitrium).

Because the orthodox teaching concerning free choice of the will is
contra Scripture.

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entropy wrote:
> "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the
> world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everyting in the
> world--the crav