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Gary McNees wrote:
> lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>Determinism is false.
> >>
> >
> > But it isn't that simple. Being by birth a partaker of the sin
nature,
> > there is no personal guilt charged against the individual because
of
> > that nature though there is condemnation on the ground of the
inherent
> > unlikeness of that nature to God. On the other hand, both guilt
and
> > condemnation are attributed to the individual because of the
personal
> > sins which are naturally born out of that sin nature.
>
> Determinism, Occasionalism, and Voluntarism, these three
> are THE philosophical errors upon which Calvinism is built.
>
And this is the evidence that you have no comprehension as to what
Calvinism actually teaches. Please, purchase the book I referred you
to in a previous post, "The Five Points of Calvinism" and perhaps for
the first time in your life, seek understanding from your opponents
view.

I love to go to peoples houses and look to see what books they have
sitting on their shelves. For those who are "theologians" to find
titles and authors which have but a single orientation, reveals a true
naivette. You will never come to appreciate, say, the Trinity until
read unitarian works such as WTP or Universalist Unitarianist.

Socrates once stated something on the order of an unexamined life not
being one worth the living. I would twist this a bit to state that a
theological position is not one worth defending unless one has truly
examined it from all angles. Again, I encourage you to read your
opponents.

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In article <174.03.14.05.789037000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
>

[snip]

>> This is a strange definition of free will. Because you cannot will
>> to fly (or rather since we need to keep a careful difference between
>> willing to do, and actually doing), you don't have free will?
>
>Notice what you did.

The failure to notice is yours, not his.

> You confused "inability to carry out" (i.e. I
>cannot fly) with "inability to will".

No. You cannot choose what is beyond your power. You can only wish it. But this
is a different sense of the word 'will'.

>I can will to fly, but I cannot fly.

That is why it is more accurate to say "I can WISH to fly", NOT "I can will to
fly".

>God cannot will to change His nature.

Not 'cannot', but DOES not.


[snip]

>And how do you know this? Chapter and verse, please. In some book
>other than the imagination of Gary, chapter 7, verse 16.

Your habit of resorting to such snide comments instead of logical rebu