entr@py.invalid wrote:


> Have you actually experienced eternity? No? Then is as if you're
> presuming to teach someone about swimming based strictly on what
> you've read about it.

What a laugh. Have you experienced: Drowning? Heaven? Heroin
Addiction? Zero Gravity? Sex with triplets?

Since we're human, we have education and communication. That is,
we have the ability to share ideas and thereby know about things
we haven't experienced.

Second, I'm not trying to "teach" him anything. I'm just showing
that his doctrine is based on assumptions which are not in Scripture.

Bart

((( s.r.c.b-s is a moderated group. All posts are approved by a moderator. )))
((( Read http://srcbs.org for details about this group BEFORE you post. )))

zach wrote:
> basicallyblues wrote:
> > Stephen Adams wrote:
> >
> > >I'm not Matthew, but the answer is, catholic yes, Roman, no. The
> > >books of the OT that Protestants call "Apocrypha" or
> > "Deuterocanonical"
> > >are accepted by the vast majority of Christians in the world,
Roman
> > >Catholic & Orthodox. The books were removed by the radical
> reformers.
> >
> > Well here's some arguments against their inclusion in the canon:
> > Additional ancient testimony. One of the chief external evidences
> > against the canonicity of the Apocrypha is the fact that none of
the
> > Christian Bible writers quoted from these books. While this of
itself
> > is not conclusive, inasmuch as their writings are also lacking in
> > quotations from a few books recognized as canonical, such as
Esther,
> > Ecclesiastes, and The Song of Solomon, yet the fact that not one of
> the
> > writings of the Apocrypha is quoted even once is certainly
> significant.
>
> What do you (or anybody) think Jude 1:14 was making reference to?
>
> "14Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See,
> the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones
15to
> judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly
acts
> they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly
> sinners have spoken against him."
>
>
> I am not familiar with any of the Apocryphal writings, nor I am
> attempting an argument, I'm just asking a question in general. Thanks
> to anyone who can answer it.

There are scriptures outside the canon. Even Jesus refered to one of
them:

John 7:37-39
On the last day of the feast, the great day, Jesus stood up and
proclaimed, "If any one thirst, let him come to me and drink. He who
believes in me, as the scrip