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Matthew Johnson wrote:

> In article <138.48.09.05.240004000@srcbs.org>, Bart Goddard says...
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> >wrf3@stablecross.com wrote:
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> >> Bart has ably refuted your "the Calvinist God is a demon" canard.
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> No, he has done no such thing. All he can accomplish is to show that it is
> internally logically consistent. But that is a _long_ way off from
> refuting the claim, "the Calvinist God is a demon".
>

The problem is that the argument that the free-willer's make to try to
make the Calvinist God a demon is the same argument that shows that the
free-willer's God is also demonic. So either the argument is wrong, or
God is a demon, regardless of which starting assumption is used.

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In article <130.59.21.05.042060000@srcbs.org>, Streamer says...
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[snip]
>Rom 8:1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ
>Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

What translation are you citing here? This verse is actually a good example of
why one should always include the abbreviation for which translation you are
using (unless you have really good extenuating circumstances). For there is a
famous textual issue here: many 'modern' translations read more like:

There is therefore now no condemnation for those
who are in Christ Jesus. (Rom 8:1 RSVA)

You can imagine what a change the absence or presence of "who walk not after the
flesh" will make on the interpretation of the entire chapter!


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Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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destinyworldwide@yahoo.com wrote:


> And we are most certainly NOT prepared to meet Him!

True, if by "we" you mean "non-Christians".

But if by "we" you somehow meant to include me, then
you're completely wrong. I've been prepared ever
since my baptism.

Bart


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Bart Goddard wrote:

> wrf3@stablecross.com wrote:
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> > So now we have to believe in the DoIT to be saved?
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> Where do you get that?
> <