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albert.van.den.bosch@skynet.be

if you have enemies here on earth then you have a big task here on earth
to make it up with them ... otherwise you will not be welcome in
"heaven"
Mattheüs 5:23-24 ... hurry hurry
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You are absolutely right, but IMHO and according to the

JOINT DECLARATION
ON THE DOCTRINE OF JUSTIFICATION

by the Lutheran World Federation
and the Catholic Church

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html

the concupiscentia is not sin just a force driving away from God.

In other hand there are people who are just against you whatever you do
within reasonable limits (e.g. no compromise in questions of faith and
morality) The first christians died in thousands and the Roman
authorities where their enemies requiring only a little incese in front
of the status of the Emperor.

laszlo


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(Surely Matthew and Rufus have already responded better than I
can.)

dell12345 wrote:
> In the last phrase, "the human judge was theos" NOT "ho theos", will you
> translate the "theos" to God or god? Definitely, a Christian will
> translate the "theos" in the last phrase as "god"

Why do you say this? How many Gods/gods are there? One, right?
I suppose that Christians don't understand what you mean by "god",
since, as Muslims might say, there are no Gods but God.

> not "God" because if you
> translate it to "God" it means that you have two Gods and that the human
> judge is THE GOD.

That is the point, isn't it? That there is one God and the 'human
judge'
(in your example) is THE GOD.

> (This is the same with the Word was with God, If Word is
> God, then God is with God, this is wrong because there is only one God).

Again, isn't this the point?

Is the (small-w) word translated as "with" the confusion?


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gpatton@bayou.com wrote:

> > > > One must not only read the Bible, one must believe it to be saved.
> > >
> >
> > If people believe Scripture they are saved from all sorts of error.
>
> They may if they choose, but even I recognize that I make errors, lots
> of them. It is not healthy to think that our mistakes, if we make
> them, are not mistakes. At least that is my opinion. Let us recognize
> scripture as what it is and ourselves as