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In article <122.05.17.05.057948000@srcbs.org>, Bart Goddard says...

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>What's the difference between "influencing for our good"
>and "coercion for our good"?

If you don't know the answer to this, Bart, then you were in no position to make
the many, MANY assertions concerning grace & free will which you have been
making ever since you joined the fray in this thread.

But then why am I not surprised? Oh, I remember now, because you were the one
who made the incredibly rash assertion that God sought out Adam in Paradise
after his sin in order to kill him!

Anyone that badly confused about the action of God can contribute only confusion
in a thread on the topic of free will.


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Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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Stephen M. Adams wrote:
> lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
>
> >I wrote and sent of a lengthy reply to this post. I guess it must have
> >got lost. I was hoping you had merely chosen not to post it until you
> >could post a reply. Oh well.
>
> What you describe is not my practice. If I recieve a post that is on
> topic, I post it. If it's not, I attempt to return it via email. This
> often fails for a host of reasons. I checked my logs and can not find
> any record of such a post from you.
>
Its' been almost 8 yrs since I was involved with tech services. But I
still haven't forgotten how it all works. I never intended any
inference accusing you of any administrative mischief. Honestly, I
leave these things in the Lord's hands.

> One more time - my rejection of "sola Scriptura" is based on the Scriptures.
> They refute it. The Scriptures support *our* position, not yours.
>
> As for a definative list, I'll provide one as soon as you can provide
> a definitive list of Scriptures, using ONLY the Scriptures themselves.
>
Is this how you reply to someone who asks you to prove that Jesus is
real? This sort of reply is really immature. It is also
disrespectful. For I am honest in my search. I have honestly sought
out just what these "traditions" are which supersede the scriptures.
IMHO, part of being made in the image of God is that man is reasonable.
Therefore, when one declares that there is something beside what God
has provided in the written word which it at least it's equal (though
as I have stated, they can no more be equal than serving God & mammon)
in authority, it is reasonable that such a one declare what th