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kent@ccountry.net wrote:

> In post <581CED8F-8ED2-D2C0-
> 11C5-611FC02FB095@srcbs.org> Bart says:
>
>
>> No. The verse doesn't give two aspects of faith,
>> it gives the same aspect twice. The two clauses
>> are restatements of each other.
>>
>
> "No."
> A chance for you to manifest your scholarship
> and knowledge, your command of reason and
> logic...and the best you can come up with is "No".
>
> The verse is quite clear; Hebrews 11:1,
>
> "Now faith is
> the assurance of things hoped for,
> the conviction of things not seen." RSV
>
> Your claim is unfounded and exclusive, an opinion
> without merit.

There are a lot better trolls on USENET than you.

Yes, the verse is clear. It's clear that the word
"and" does not appear. It says nothing like "faith
is the following two things", but instead clarifies
"the assurance of things hoped for" with "the conviction
of things not seen." Everyone know it. Even you.



>> Things hoped for are not seen, so to say that faith
>> is the assurance of things hoped for it's the same
>> as saying it's the conviction of things not seen.
>>
>
> Again you put on display your own astonishing lack
> of comprehension. The very author of Hebrews
> rebuts your opinion. Had you bothered to read the
> author's argument in chapter eleven you might have
> discovered the futility of your position.

And again you give no argument, but only suggest that
there might be an argument. I notice that you
cut the verse from Romans that puts the lie to your
nonsense:

Romans 8:24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that
is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has?

"Hope that is seen is no hope at all". What could be
clearer? Nothing.


> Unless and until you can demonstrate otherwise,
> my argument stands.

You have yet to put forth an argument. So I
suppose it "stands" vacuously. But so what?

Both verses contradict you. If you have a way
to wiggle out of it, then let's see it. Otherwise,
it's very clear to all that you're just hiding behind
bravado.

Bart


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"larswilson" wrote in message
news:168.20.16.05.679271000@srcbs.org...
>
>
>
> You see, Christ is called "The Word" because all things were created
> "through him and for him and by him".

Lars, if you only even believed what you yourself write you
could be released from your prison of death.

The above is a direct quote of
Colossians 1:16