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Sarah Kanary wrote:

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> The individual books of the "NT" were written by individual Jewish
> Christians,

Luke was a Gentile.






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Gary McNees wrote:

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> Well, then let me ask, what about the future sin.
> Do you control whether you sin or not?
> Or does God?
>
> Or some other answer?
>
> Determinism is false.
>
But it isn't that simple. Being by birth a partaker of the sin nature,
there is no personal guilt charged against the individual because of
that nature though there is condemnation on the ground of the inherent
unlikeness of that nature to God. On the other hand, both guilt and
condemnation are attributed to the individual because of the personal
sins which are naturally born out of that sin nature.

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Greetings Bob:
Please see below.


Bob Felts wrote:
> Gary McNees wrote:
>
>
>>Bob Felts wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You think you're free, but you're not. You are no more free than a
>>>character in a book. Characters who have actually met the author know
>>>better.
>>
>>Another thought Bob.
>>
>>Spurgeon was "converted" to TULIP long after he first believed.
>>
>>So also was R. C. Sproul. (He writes of this in some of his books.)
>>
>
>
> So was I.

The reason I brought this up is that that there are not
a few Calvinists who seem to forget or deny this.

>>This is true also of most Calvinists I know. Most of the new members of
>>the Calvinistic churches I have attended were either born to Calvinist
>>parents or came out of other churches which were not Calvinistic.
>
>
> Calvinists, unfortunately, sometimes have a tendency to be less
> enthusiastically evangelistic than other groups.
>
>
>>That is, I have met or talked to very very few persons who claim that they
>>were converted by hearing TULIP.
>
>
> TULIP is not the Gospel. I usually don't bring either up either
> Arminianism or Calvinism unless someone wants to know about the
> questions addressed by each.

I have conversed with many a Calvinist who assert
that the "true gospel," is TULIP. And if one does
not believe TULIP then one is not a Christian.

Actually, Bob, I would be interested in how you, as one
who espouses that T