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In article , Sarah Kanary
says...

>Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> "Sarah Kanary" writes:
>> >"Stephen M. Adams" wrote:

[snip]

>> Just who do you think the church is? Those individual
>> Jewish Christians were members of the One, Holy, Catholic
>> and Apostolic Church. And that IS the Orthodox Church.

>Does not "catholic" mean "universal"?

Steve's point _was_ that no, it does not. But if you look up
the word in Lampe's Lexicon of Patristic Greek, you will
find that _occasionally_ it really does mean
'universal'. But no matter what Roman rumors say, this was a
_rare_ sense of the word before Rome usurped the word and
twisted its meaning.

>First-century Christianity was viewed by "orthodoxy" as
>anything but 'universal'.

What _are_ you talking about? First-century Christianity
_was_ Orthodoxy. The Gnostics were _not_ Christian -- and
they still are not.

> Christianity was viewed as a
>'heretical sect' of Judaism. Rome opposed it.

No, the Roman Emperor opposed it. The Roman See did not.

> Judaism opposed it.

WHICH 'Judaism'? Before the final destruction of the Temple,
there was HUGE variety in Judaism. Not even the Pharisees
and Sadducees could claim to be the dominant strain.

[snip]

>> And THAT is the Orthodox Church.

>Correct! Those who are truly orthodox are few, not many.

And they are NOT JWs.

> Thus, the term "catholic" or 'universal' is a misnomer
>for orthodoxy.

You miss the point: 'catholic' does NOT equal 'universal'.


>> >>The Orthodox do. And always have.

>> >True. However, it is Scripture that determines what is and is not orthodox.

>> Yes, and the Scriptures are clear that you are a member of a group of
>> false believers and teachers who reject the truth of the Scriptures.
>> Your group has gone so far as to publish an editied, redacted and false
>> "translation" of the Scriptures to support your heresy.

>That old accusation has been leveled against just about everybody who
>ever did a translation, from Wycliffe to Luther.

Do you really think that translation started with Wycliffe?
It did not, you know. Noboby EVER raised that accusation
against St. Jerome, nor against Sts. Cyril and Methodius,
nor against St. Gregory the Illuminator, nor against
St. Gregory Mtatsminda ALL of whom did perfectly Orthodox
translations centuries before heretics did translations in
Europe.

>Thus distracting from what true Christians are really supposed to be