In article <173.53.11.05.006069000@srcbs.org>, lsenders@hotmail.com says...
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>Gary McNees wrote:
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>Had a day off? Thought to write a bit?
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>I have a simple question for you, Mr. McNees. You unceasingly attack
>what has come to be termed, "Calvinism."

And irghtly so. Gary's contributions to the NG have been a wonderful
counterweight to the reams of mindless Calvinist propaganda others post.

> Fine. But I have yet to read
>anywhere, either from you or from others, a working definition of
>"free-will."

Then you really haven't been reading. I gave this a long time ago.

> This should be a simple thing.

If men's minds were not poisoned by the false dogmas of Calvinism, it _would_ be
a simple thing. The first 4 centuries or so of Christianity DID find it "a
simple thing".

But because of the wide and deep prevalence of Calvinistic assumptions in modern
day society -- especially in modern day _American_ society, there is too much
undergrowth that has to be cleared before the good seed of the traditional
CHristian definition can be laid in the reader's mind and bear fruit.

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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com wrote:

> Trying to change the world for better best begins with God and
> self.

It's funny that you title your post "LOVE GOD", and then the
first sentence is a call to love the world more than God.
We don't love God so that we can change the world. That
makes God into a mere means to an end.



> Quit all lies and
> guessing, to listen to us whom God, and His Son Jesus Christ, and
> Their angels have taught.

There's no way that someone who places God below the world
has be taught by God. So it turns out that you're the liar.



> Theirs is the credit. We who have quit sin, and love God are
> wise; and God is pleased with us.


If the credit is "theirs", then why do you take credit
for pleasing God in the very next sentence.



> God hates witchcraft, hatred, stealing, pervert,
> and fornication.


God hates those who preach salvation by works, which
spits on the sacrifice of Jesus.


> Go to people who speak in tongues

And now you want people to seek out those who listen
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