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nnalyd@yahoo.com wrote:
> I wrote:
> Ignatius calls Almighty God "the only true God, the unbegotten and
> unapproachable, the Lord of all, the Father and Begetter of the
> only-begotten Son," showing the distinction between God and His Son.
> He speaks of "God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ." And he
> declares: "There is one God, the Almighty, who has manifested Himself
> by Jesus Christ His Son."
>
> ******Ignatius shows that the SON WAS NOT ETERNAL AS A PERSON BUT WAS
> CREATED, for he has the Son saying: "The Lord [Almighty God] created
> Me, the beginning of His ways."*****
More contradictions. Your own quote says that God manifested
_Himself_ by Jesus. Let me guess, you deny the Holocost too.
Bart
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:24:59 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Johnson
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>In article <179.55.08.05.551729000@srcbs.org>, Mike Rhodes says...
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>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:41:42 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Johnson
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>>>In article <177.29.16.05.574599000@srcbs.org>, Mike Rhodes says...
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>>>>On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:52:13 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Johnson
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>[snip]
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>>>In particular, if you wish to really understand what I was trying to say by
>>>using the driver's distraction as a metaphor, you must understand that I am NOT
>>>assuming it is merely momentary.
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>>The discussion about distractions has become one. That was not my
>>intention, Matthew.
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>Well, of course it was not your intention. Your intention was
>something much worse, to slander the great pillar of the Church, Paul,
>accusing him of 'showmanship'.
>
>Besides: that the discussion became as distraction was your own fault,
>because of your perverse misinterpretation of what I said. But I am
>not surprised, since your misinterpretation of Paul is SO much more
>perverse.
>
>[snip]
Paul's conversion, as written in Acts, was a fake. It was a
conspiracy. And so are at least some of his letters.
But it is possible, even likely, that he converted to Christ later on.
He spent so much time with Christians how could he not be caught up in
it? It seems clearly to be so, from some of his writing.
Peter's comment on "beloved Paul" then makes more sense, as it would
be a way confirming him before the brethren, while warning them to be
seriously careful with what he wrote.
And Christ's warning in Rev 2 about "lying apostles", wh