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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:

>> You
>> can't believe in a God who would damn His own creatures,
>
> I didn't say this. The God I believe in is the God who says:

That's why I said "You can't believe in...". This is just
simple English.


>> yet you insist that He gave them free will so that they
>> have the tool to get damned.
>
> Without free will no one can love God freely.

Where in Scripture is "love freely"? I realize that you
have a version of the Bible wherein you've written in
all sorts of stuff. But can you provide some reference
for those of us with more intact translations?


> Your God FORCES you to love Him.

Says who?

>> You call this a "God of love", but He doesn't display
>> even the love a human parent towards His children.
>
> We have gone over this before, I think.

I have. You haven't. All you've done is say "the
Calvinist God is worse", which is irrelevant, and
"it's obvious".


>> If
>> my kids were in mortal danger, I sure wouldn't leave
>> their safety up in the air by refusing to help them
>> until they asked for it, or showed some sign that they
>> wanted help from me, or showed some sign that they
>> trusted my judgement.
>
> Well, your not God, thank goodness. :)
>
> The flaw in your story is that YOU are the one who put
> your children into mortal danger.

Your God creates men, gives them free will and
turns them loose on a planet where it's easy to remain
ignorant and where they most likely will use there
free will to damn themselves. So, it sure looks like
your God also is putting men in mortal danger.



> So get over trying to convince anyone who has a brain that
> the God you picture is loving at all.

Wrong on two counts. First, you have very little idea
of the God I picture. Second, I'm not trying to convince
you, or even anyone who has a brain, anything about my
God. I'm trying to convince you about your God.


>> The God you describe is a monster, who creates billions of
>> people and lets wander off in their ignorance. When they
>> all end up in Hell, He just shrugs His shoulders and says
>> "Oh, well, it was their choice".
>
> Not so. He says the very opposite of what you say about Him.

I haven't said anything about Him. I've only talked about
what you say about Him.



> It is YOUR God who is the monster!

You know nothing about my God.


>> There is no comfort in "free will" doctrine.
>
> What there is no comfort