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mej1960@yahoo.com wrote:

> Besides: you must make your fellow Predestinarian
> Bart cringe with such illogic:

I'm not a "predistinarian".

Bart


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Moving away from the controversial issue of the trinity for now....

There seems to be varying opinions on why Jesus had to die in order for
sins to be forgiven. Did he die? If so could each of you kindly explain
why Jesus had to die in order for there to be salvation. Why could God
not simply forgive? What is the ransom?

This has to be the most important doctrine of the Bible and I'm getting
the impression by various comments that most of us have conflicting
views.

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apostlekeithwilliams@juno.com wrote:

> Trying to change the world for better best begins with God and
> self.

It's funny that you title your post "LOVE GOD", and then the
first sentence is a call to love the world more than God.
We don't love God so that we can change the world. That
makes God into a mere means to an end.



> Quit all lies and
> guessing, to listen to us whom God, and His Son Jesus Christ, and
> Their angels have taught.

There's no way that someone who places God below the world
has be taught by God. So it turns out that you're the liar.



> Theirs is the credit. We who have quit sin, and love God are
> wise; and God is pleased with us.


If the credit is "theirs", then why do you take credit
for pleasing God in the very next sentence.



> God hates witchcraft, hatred, stealing, pervert,
> and fornication.


God hates those who preach salvation by works, which
spits on the sacrifice of Jesus.


> Go to people who speak in tongues

And now you want people to seek out those who listen
to demons? False prophets will get their reward.

Bart

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"gilgames" wrote in message
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> <<
> There are several reasons for Christendom's reluctance to admit that at
> least some, if not all of the "NT" was originally written in Hebrew. As
> the original Hebrew Christians died off, the church became more Greek
> than Hebrew. Gradually, the love tha