"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
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> bennetms@hotmail.com wrote:
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> >> That's a works-righteousness question. I flatly reject the idea
> >> that my action of accepting Jesus is what saves me. "Accepting
> >> Jesus" is nothing else but obedience to the commandment to
> >> love God above all things, and if you teach that someone saves
> >> himself by obedience, then you are teaching the anti-gospel.
> >>
> >> The Gospel is about what Jesus does, not about what we do.
> >>
> > Works for righteousness is as filthy rags before God.
> > Accepting the dying, saving, redeeming work of Christ on the cross, is
> > accepting the free gift of God. It is God working on behalf of us. Us
> > accepting it. No work on our side.
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> "Accepting" is a work. It's obedience to the First Commandment.

It most certainly is NOT. This is pure nonsense.
I cannot even understand why you write what you do.


> When God asks you why you should be let into Heaven will you
> say:
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> 1. "Because Jesus died for me."
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> OR
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> 2. "Because I accepted grace."
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> Note that the second action is something _you_ did, and you'd
> be asking God to admit you into Heaven on the basis of your
> own merit.

Hidden in the first statement is receiving Christ.
The benefits of Christ's death are only APPLIED
to those who believe in Him, and by faith we
receive Him and His work.

understood in 1. above is:

"Because [I believe] Jesus died for me."

If you don't believe Jesus died for you, you
don't benefit from it.

Gary



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In article <091.03.23.05.237708000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
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>Matthew Johnson wrote:
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>> In article <091.34.08.05.202286000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
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>> >Rather, the Church is the group of people chosen by the Lord Jesus.
>>
>> No. That is an ancient heresy. The Church is represented by the Parable
>> and the wheat and tares, which shows that even up to the end times, there
>> will always be wicked people in the Church -- making life harder for the
>> righteous.
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>No, the world is represented by the Parable of the wheat and the tares.

So said the ancient heretics. I wish I could say that I was surpised that you
chose to follow them.

>The Church is the wheat.

No. It is the those righteous within the Church who persevere to the end.

>The tares are not a part of the body of
>Christ, unless you hold that part of the