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In article <091.03.23.05.704258000@srcbs.org>, basicallyblues says...
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>> MY God- the very same God Jesus Christ prayed to and worshipped-
>YHWH-
>> showed his love by sending his only-begotten Son as a ransom
>sacrifice.
>> That's a fine basis.
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>>You are simply out of league. You do not understand the issue being
>>debated.
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>Your arrogance is almost sociopathic.

Noting that you are out of your league is NOT 'sociopathic'. On the other hand,
arrogantly calling all Trinitarians 'pagans' while accusing _others_ of
arrogance certainly is sociopathic.

> I understand the issue much more
>than you.

No, you do not. Why, rather than show 'understanding' you have just put your
foot in it!

> In fact you apparantly didn't understand it well enough to
>comment on it. Instead you throw out another condescending jab. You
>*think* you are a superior scholar but you merely the Walter Mitty of
>this board.
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>> God has no needs. He created out of love- not need. His first
>creation
>> (the archangel Michael who later became Jesus)
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>>"Chapter and verse please," to quote a previous JfW poster.
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>I'll do this out of courtesy as your arrogance is annoying.

So says the man who more than anyone else in the last 90 days in this NG has
drawn theangry responses of so many because of _his_ arrogant posts, bloated
with arrogant and specious accusations. Nice going, BB.

>Rev. 3:14

Can't you _read_? This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christ being an angel.
On the contrary: the angel is only identified as "the angel of the church in
Laodicea". Who _know_ who this is referring to? Why would _anyone_ believe it
refers to Christ?

>Col. 1:15

This one is at least about Christ, but there is NOTHING about Him being an
Archangel here. And you misunderstand why He is called "first-born of all
creation". Only His _human nature_ is created!

>Prov. 8:22

We have been over this one many times before. This verse does not even pretend
to be about Christ HImself at all. It is about _Wisdom_. So you explain what
your reasoning is for dreaming that this applies to Christ Himself and we will
explain why you are wrong;)

>John 6:57

This too says NOTHING about Christ as created. It also says nothing about HIm
being an angel (of any kind). All it says is that His being is from the Father.

But this has _always_ been a central tenet of Trinitarianism: the Father is the
font of all being in the Trinity. Even Filioquists admit this.

>Jesus as Michael:

No, none of the verses you list say anything about Jesus as Michael. This is
_pur