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Gary McNees wrote:
> Bart Goddard wrote:
> > OTOH, you're most definitely a "nomian", since you really
> > require acts of the law for salvation.
>
> Let's see. Who said that the keeping of the 1st commandment
> is saving faith? Bart
>
> Who has repeatedly said that one is saved simply by believing,
>
> "Christ died for me."
>
> Looks like you are the one who makes salvation by works of law.
>
I will comment on this further down.
>
> >>Now this work is done in the person whether they agree or not.
> >
> >
> > So he didn't make the choice. He didn't have free will after all.
>
> We have free will to do some things, and not others.
>
Man who is born dead, having a sin nature, cannot freely choose to do
good. He must first be "born again" before he can choose the "good."
>
> >>>>Needless to say, I disagree. One is saved by "coming to Jesus,"
> >>>>but one comes to Jesus by faith, which is neither a good nor
> >>>>a bad WORK.
> >>>
Faith is a vehicle. I don't care if it is a Bently R, it will sit in
your garage and merely look pretty unless there is either fuel or a
spark to ignite that fuel to get it rolling down the road of salvation.
Faith, indeed is not a work, per say, but to place faith before God's
actualization, ignition and fueling (regeneration) necessarily brings
in a contingency which is nothing short of what is commonly referred to
as "works," in that it requires an autonomous action of man.
> >>>
> >>>As I tried to point out, the grammar here is bad. It's no
> >>>good saying "faith is not a work" as if that were a bit
> >>>of doctrine, rather than a consequence of the fact that
> >>>the statement makes no sense.
> >>>
> >>>The issue is whether _the having_ of faith is a work.
> >>>(And it is. It is exactly obedience to the 1st Commandment.)
> >>
> >>I, as before stated could not disagree more. In my understanding it
is
> >>the very OPPOSITE of obedience to the 1st commandment or any other
> >>commandment.
> >
> > OK, if a person ends rejects Jesus, then he ends up in
> > Hell, so rejecting Jesus is a sin. If it's a sin, it
> > must violate some commandment. Which one?
>
> Not sure what you thought you just said.
>
> Christ died for me, and I know this because God said so.
> Thus I know it by faith.
>
You know it only because He capacitated you to receive it. Without
such a capacitation, you would remain blind, both because of the
inherited sin nature and the resulting sin plus Satan's blinding.


But the whole purpose of my stepping in between the two of you has to
do with this issue of "love."