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"Bob Felts" wrote in message
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>
>
> Gary McNees wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >
> > No. This is NOT voluntarism. This is essentialism. The Calvinist
believes
> > in voluntarism. That is, the Calvinist God could say that evil is good,
> > and it would then be good.
>
> If He says that it's good, then it isn't evil. God is the sole arbiter
> of what is good and what is evil.

Very funny. God says that men like you do exactly this.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put
darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and
sweet for bitter!

God does not and cannot just say anything at all. God cannot lie. But your
god can lie. And on top of that then define that lying is good.

> > The God of the Bible cannot say that evil is good, for that would be
against
> > His nature.
> >
> > At least, Bob, try to get the definitions of voluntarism and
essentialism
> > correct.
>
> Try this thought experiment. Suppose that you woke up one morning and
> everything had "flipped". Today you find out that God says is good what
> you had previously thought was evil. Is it good?

This experiment is impossible. We know what a lie is, don't we?

The problem is that you have already done this "thought experiment," and
come out believing that the true god can indeed define that evil is good,
and
good evil, since this is the very essence of Calvinism.

You find no problem with the parent pushing the child in front of the bus.
Your god does this, except on an infinite scale.

Gary


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> Also, I have for more than 25 years read articles in the Journal of
> Biblical Literature and the Catholic Biblical Quarterly and never saw
> the theory mentioned once.
>
> It is only recently that I have started slumming in the theological
> metropolis.

I don't remember if Mormons believe that Jesus is Michael specifically,
but they do believe that Jesus and Satan were brothers, and that God
chose Jesus' plan for salvation over that of Satan ("Lucifer?" I don't
remember if they equate to the same being in their theology), and thus
Satan became the adversary. Hmm, sounds reminiscent of the Abel and
Cain story. I remember a girl from a prominent Mormon family did a
presentation on this at my high school for some speech assignment (I
wonder if she could get away with that these days?).

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