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In article <130.42.13.05.509605000@srcbs.org>, Bart Goddard says...
>
>lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:

[snip]

>> To have the indwelling Spirit testifying to us should keep us all in a
>> state of humility. ALL theological system have error within them.
>> Some more, some less. This you should recognize, and with a humble
>> heart, be more accepting of others. Remember, "rather you hot or cold
>> not puke lukewarm."
>

[snip]

>Second, I (and I'd bet everyone who reads this group) finds
>Gary a much humbler person than you. So your bit about
>the indwelling of the Spirit applies all the more to yourself.

I am glad you pointed this out, Bart. For as long as I was the only one making
this obvious point explicit, Loren could easily make the excuse that it was just
me saying it, and my opinion had no weight.

But now he will have to resort to flimsier excuses, since you and I, who
disagree so sharply on so many things, agree so completely on this one.

>
>Third, even given your perspective here, on one hand you
>say Gary is cold (doesn't have the Spirit) and if he is
>getting belligerent, then we might say he's hot. So one
>wonders why you, on the other hand chastize him for being
>"lukewarm".
>
>It is, perhaps, the most frustrating thing for me on this
>newsgroup that nobody cares what is true or false, but only
>whether it is painful to say or whether the person who said
>it might, occasionally sin.

And I don't even see this last condition "whether the person ... sin" very
often. What I see far, far too often is your first condition: nobody will heed
Solomon and listen to what they do not want to hear. They take offense at what
should have given no offense, and use that as their flimsy excuse to ignore the
wisdom in the painful words.

For he said quite clearly (and this is not the only one):

He that refuseth correction despiseth his own soul;
but he that hearkeneth to reproof getteth understanding. (Pro 15:32 JPS)



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Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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(~) Bible Readings for Sunday July 24

Proper 12

1 Kings 3:5-12
Romans 8:26-34
Matthew 13:31-33,44-49a

Old Testament 1 Kings 3:5-12

At Gibeon the LORD appeared to Solomon in a dream by night; and God said,
"Ask what I should give you." And Solomon said, "You have shown great and
steadfast love to your servant my father David, bec