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basicallyblues wrote:
> gpat...@bayou.com wrote:
>
>
> >One way our salvation is described is that Jesus paid our ransom for
> >our release from captivity.
> >Some picture Jesus as a "sin bearer" something like the scape goat
> >of Leviticus.
>
> These two are related and both are true.


Here are a few more questions. Who were ransomed? What was the ransom
that was paid? Who paid the ransom? Who received the ransom that was
paid? What did the one who received the ransom do with it?

How does one take the sin of one person and put it on another person or
goat?

There are problems with the illustrations that people use to explain
why Jesus died and what that death accomplished. I have not been able
to answer any of your questions, but I thought I could add a few.


> >And Jesus was far superior from any animal. He was sacrifice
> >enough for all. (I don't really understand animal sacrifice as a
form
> >of worship. But, some do understand it.)
>
> This is the most intrigiung one. Why did it take Jesus to be the
> propitiatory for the sins of mankind? Why wern't animal sacrifices
> enough? Afterall "blood was shed" which was essential for atonement
> under the Law code. Why a homan sacrifice? Why not any human
sacrifice?
> Why Jesus?
>
> >Some pictured Jesus as paying our debt to God. That is: sinful man
> >owed God a debt, a debt that he could never pay. And Jesus paid our
> >debts for us.
>
> Interesting. Jesus as a benefactor. Why couldn't man pay this debt?
> What was man lacking? Why couldn't one man out of the billions that
> have ever lived pay off this debt with his life?
>
> >Others picture Jesus as the one who stayed true to God and did what
> >God wanted him to do, even when it cost him his life. So God gave
him
> >all those whom Jesus wanted to save and nothing can take any of them
> >from Jesus.
>
> But Jesus could have saved his life, right? Why did he freely give
it?
>
> >Then there is my favorite: The Victorious Christ. Death took Jesus
as
> >it had taken all before, but death could not hold Jesus. Jesus
> >defeated death and conquered it. He conquered death and freed
> >mankind from death.
>
> But HOW and WHY did his victory over death free mankind from death?
> Others had been resurrected in the past. Both Elisha and Elijah
> resurrected persons- Jesus resurrected at least two persons before he
> was resurrected. Would mankind have been freed from death if Jesus
was
> not resurrected?
>
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