gpatton@bayou.com wrote:


>> > Demonic? Really?
>>
>> What else? Consider Saul's visit to the witch of Endor.
>>
>
> Very interesting point of view. I would like to see where this idea
> goes.

It's a standard point of view. An outline is that since the
canon was closed with the death of the last apostle (St. John)
there can be no more revelations from God. So anything else
which claims to be a revelation must be false. If the
"prophet" is not delusional or just plain lying, then the
only remaining sorce is demonic. And Scripture shows that
Satan practices just this sort of deception.

Bart

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bimms@juno.com wrote:
> "...we do not say that
> the materials built the house together with the craftsman. We say the
> craftsman
> built the house..."
>
> Matthew, you are in error here. For Theophylact:
> 1. "God" is the craftsman
> 2. "Human free will" are the materials
> 3. So the best way to interpret what Theophylact is saying is this:
> "we do not say that (human free will) built the house together
> with (God). We say (God) built the house.(apart from human free will)"
> 4. your interpretation of Theophylact is off, my friend. In fact, your
> interpretation
> says precisely the opposite of what Theophylact is trying to say.
> Here is your interpretation:
>
> "...Similarly here: although God accepts the free will of the saved
> and uses it in building their salvation, we say that it is He who built
> it..."
>
> Nowhere does Theophylact say that God "accepts the free will of the
> saved." Instead,
> Theophylact is saying that God DOES NOT accept asssitance of human free
> will... much the
> same as the craftsman does not accept the free will assistance of the
> house materials to build the
> house.
>
> A craftsman does not need the free will assistance of the housing
> materials to build a house. Housing
> materials do not have a motivational-force "free will" that would
> enable them to assist a craftsman to construct
> a house.
>
> Thus, Theophylact is saying that humans do not have a
> motivational-force "free will" that enables
> them to assist God to construct our salvation.
>
> (obviously, it still remains true that humans have free will in
> general. The point at issue is whether human free will is operating
> during SALVATION and SANCTIFICATION. Calvinists claim that during
> Salvation and Sanctification, human free will is NOT operational, but
> during the remainder of a human life, free will IS operational.)

I can't speak to your understanding of Theophylact. But God does
say th