In article <154.10.10.05.864132000@srcbs.org>, tuppence says...
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>> Not quite. He says that a man can't save himself by
>> works. He doesn't say that other men, acting as
>> the arm of the Church, won't deliver the Word.
>>
>> Bart
>>
>
>Any scripture claiming that faith comes from hearing alone?

I am _so_ glad you asked that question, 'tuppence'. For Bart has given a verse,
but insists on a questionable sense of the preposition 'by' in that verse. And
without that verse, he can have NO scriptural proof that "faith comes by/from
hearing alone".


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
(St. Augustine, Ser. 96)

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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:

>> >>
>> >> Knowing full well what will happen, I give a gun to one man which
>> >> he uses to shoot game to provide food for his family. He takes a
>> >> good gift and uses it wisely.
>> >>
>> >> Again, knowing full well what will happen, I give a gun to another
>> >> man who uses it to shoot his wife and children.
>> >>
>> >> Does "free will" absolve me in the second case?
>> >
>> > I wouldn't give a gun to the second man. :)
>> > This is really getting funny.
>>
>> I guess. The whole point is that God does give the gun
>> to the second man.
>
> God hasn't given any guns to any man.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Your God HAS given man
free will, which some men use to destroy themselves. How is
that different from me giving guns to the men above? At least
I'm finite and I may be ignorant of what the evil man will
do with the gun, but God knows what the evil men will do with
the free will He gives them.

How _can_ you say He's not responsible?


> Someone gets a hold of one of my knives, and murders
> someone. This DOES NOT MAKE me responsible.
>
> Remember a few posts ago when Matthew stated that
> your doctrine makes excuses really easy. How true
> it is.

ME??? You're the one who just excused yourself for
making knives that are used to murder.

You soooooooo don't know anything about my doctrine if
you think it makes excuses easy. My doctrine allows for
no excuses at all, even hard ones.


> You are not inspired, at least not by God.

Usually said by someone who thinks he is.

Bart

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