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A Primer on Alaska Native Sovereignty by Douglas K. Mertz

Native legal claims to the sovereign right to control their own communities and their own tribal members.

A Primer on Alaska Native Sovereignty by Douglas K. Mertz

Native legal claims to the sovereign right to control their own communities and their own tribal members.

Alaska - An Overview Of Its Political History

Native peoples, history of exploitation, discovery of oil, and the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

Alaska - An Overview Of Its Political History

Native peoples, history of exploitation, discovery of oil, and the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

Alaska Native Heritage Center

The Alaska Native Heritage Center is a gathering place that celebrates, perpetuates and shares Alaska Native culture, language, heritage and tradition.

Alaska Native Heritage Center

Cultural history center for the Alaskan Native that is preserving knowledge handed down from generation to generation.

Alaska Native Heritage Center

The Alaska Native Heritage Center is a gathering place that celebrates, perpetuates and shares Alaska Native culture, language, heritage and tradition.

Alaska Native Heritage Center

Cultural history center for the Alaskan Native that is preserving knowledge handed down from generation to generation.

Alaska Native Language Center

Center for the study of Eskimo and Northern Athabaskan languages at the University of Alaska Fairbanks. ANLC works to document and promote the twenty Native languages of Alaska.

Alaska Native Language Center

Center for the study of Eskimo and Northern Athabaskan languages at the University of Alaska Fairbanks. ANLC works to document and promote the twenty Native languages of Alaska.



gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:

> Let's try to keep to the issue.

Yes. Let's.


> You and Bob believe that God condemns man for that which
> he is unable do anything about.


Classic: "Unable to do anything about." Exactly. You think
man IS able to do something about his salvation. THAT is
salvation by works. Period. I don't care if you believe
in salvation by works, I'm just bothered that you don't
admit it.


> I have answers for all your "arguments" but your arguments do not
> address the issue.


You haven't managed to come up with an argument that explains
your internally contradictory sentences like:

1. God controls everything, but He doesn't control sin.

2. After we show God we're worthy, He grants us salvation.


Bart

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> Nothing to do with theology but scripture itself. Either you believe
> the Bible contradicts itself or you realize that Enoch being "taken"
or
> "transferred" does not mean he didn't die.

>The fallacy of the false dilemma. Those aren't the only two choices.

They most certainly are chap. Either Enoch died or he did not.

>In the Greek, Jesus is saying that no one has ascended by their own
>direct action and power

not according to how the Greek word "anabaino" is used throughout
scripture:

Luke 19:28
John 1:51
John 3:13
John 20:17
Acts 2:34
Acts 25:1
Ephe 4:8,9,10
Rev. 8:4
Rev. 11:7,12
Rev. 14:11

in NONE of these verses do we see a clear usage of "anabaino" as you
say. No disnction between ascending voluntarily or unvoluntarily.

> So if Enoch was not in heaven where was he?

>The place of the righteous dead.

and what's that?..where is it?

>Whatever the case the Bible says that nobody had gone to heaven
> prior to 33 c.e.

>The Bible says nothing of the kind.

Sure it does. John 3:13.

>Where in Scripture does it say that the
>Most Holy Place is equivalent to all of heaven?

heaven is heaven in this respect as it involved the New Covenant which
included persons would be bought from the earth to rule with Christ

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wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
>Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
>> >Stephen M. Adams wrote:
>> >> wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes: