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Matthew Johnson wrote:
> In article <126.12.20.05.728091000@srcbs.org>, lsenders@hotmail.com
says...
>
SNIP because there is no point to continue.
>
> >Certainly he made tremendous strides, esp when applying this context
> >of discussion to his ideas concerning the Trinity,
>
> Again, you show off your ignorance. There were no "tremendous
strides"
> in his writing on the Trinity. For the most part, he simply
reproduced
> the ideas of the Cappadocians -- except where he added his own
errors,
> such as for his limited support for the Filioque.
>
Reread what I wrote. He made tremendous strides in weeding out Greek
philosophical presuppositionalism from his theological stance as
evidenced in his work concerning the Trinity, not that his trinitarian
doctrine evolved. You become so hot and bothered, so quick to respond,
that you do not take the context into consideration.
>
> Nor is that the only way you show off your ignorance even in this one
> sentence. For even among his western admirers, Augustine is NOT
> remembered so much for his work on the Trinity, but rather, for his
> work on grace. That is WHY he is called the "Doctor of Grace".
>
Context. It is recognized for his work in grace because he recognized
that a Christian theologian must sever all presuppositional ties from
any autonomous rationalizations. The Reformers claim Augustine in that
they sought to re-establish this truth. Sola scriptura because the
depravity of man requires it to be so, not to mention the very
constructs of Creator - creature.
>
>
> Your entire ignorant rant, Loren,
>

John 17:23 I in them, and Thou in Me, that they may be perfected in
unity, _that_the_world_may_know that Thou didst send Me, and didst love
them, even as Thou didst love Me.

Is this your idea of just what a fine apologist of Christ you are,
Matthew! Such words witness of vanity, not of Christ-likeness.

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I think the Book of Job is a Hegelian theodicy where undeserved evil
is presented as morally necessary for the creation of the possibility
of a completely selfless love of men and women for God.

1. God is causally responsible for the moral and natural evils that
befell Job. God is the principal. Satan is his agent. The actions of
the agents are attributable to the principal. This evil is not for
punishment, nor for character development.

2. Job rightly puts God on trial through an Oath of Innocence
demanding an answer to question of why God created that evil.

3. God shows up for trial but cannot enter a defense. He can