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peter.gibbs@charter.net wrote:

>
>
> Bart writes: [Paul] "says that a man can't save himself by
> works. He doesn't say that other men, acting as
> the arm of the Church, won't deliver the Word. "
>
> I disagree.

You can disagree, but he doesn't say it. Further, Jesus
says the opposite when when He commissions the Apostles
(including Paul.)



> Here (again) are Paul's words:
> "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your
> own doing; it is the gift of God- not the result of works, so that no
> one may boast."

So you're going to quote Paul, who is in the very act of
delivering the Word in an attempt to claim that men don't
deliver the Word? You really, really need to rethink your
position.


> Notice that Paul does not say "he who has been saved may not boast,"
> he says "no one may boast" - neither the one saved, nor the "arm of
> the Church" who may in his pride believe that he is the agent of
> salvation.
> Grace is a free gift of God.

The issue is not whether grace is a free gift, but rather
over _how_ the free gift is given. I say it is given through
the Church. That's what Scripture says and that's how it's
been for 2000 years. If God doesn't give grace through the
Church, then how is anyone going to get it? (This rhetorical
question is parallel to Scripture "If they don't hear, how
will they believe?")

Bart

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>"jetgraphics" wrote in message
>news:qwE1e.18057$6H4.465@fe03.lga...
>> If we accept that we're simply biological entities, and that every day of
>> life, no matter how bad, is precious, then maintaining that life to the
>> bitter end is logical. The next question is whether an existence in a
>> vegetative state is any different from oblivion?
>
>
>I already ask this in several newsgroups a few days ago. No one answered it.
>
>I like the question though. :)
>
> -- Franklin Hummel in Boston, Massachusetts
>
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