"Bart Goddard" wrote in message
news:152.03.14.05.506279000@srcbs.org...
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> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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> >> > God is saying, "WHAT MORE COULD I DO?"
> >> > Now according to your theology, God could do everything!
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> >> And according to yours, He can't do everything?
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> > That's correct. God cannot create another God. God
> > cannot lie. God cannot change. There are three things right there
> > that God cannot do.
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> I made this clear, that we aren't talking of logical impossibilities
> here, but things which are clearly possible.

God can do anything that is possible. The future is possible.
Hence God can and does know the future. This future
is largely dependent upon the free choices of man. Hence,
God knows the free choices of men. God not only knows
the actual future, but He knows all possible futures which
could have been had He will them. Hence He knows what
the people in Tyre and Sidon "would have done" had they
seen the miracles that Christ did in Chorazin and Bethsaida.

> I can save a kid,
> against his will, from walking into the street, but your God
> _can't_ could save someone from Hell against their
> free will.

Sure He could. In fact, I am sure that He does such things
often. If you do not understand the difference, perhaps someone
else will explain it to you.

> This is an entirely different category of thing
> from "God changing", (which screws with the definition of
> "God" in the same sentence in which He is mentioned.)

I agree that God can anything that is possible. But even God
cannot make a man choose "freely" that which he refused to
choose. Too bad you cannot understand the obvious. For one
to love another freely, one has to be free.

> >> Here you limit His power,
> >> and not in the illogical way by saying He can't make
> >> a rock so big He can't pick it up, or by some problem
> >> with definitions as in the "Can God lie" subthreads,
> >> BUT you limit Him from doing something which is completely,
> >> physically, spiritually, possible.
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> > God is the one who made the retorical statement
> > "What more could I do?" The understood answer
> > being, nothiing.
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> And it's a sentence about God, not about men. So
> how can you infer a trait (free will) of men from
> a statement about God?

How do you explain that God could do nothing more to
change his "vineyard?" I, at least, have an answer which
is agreed upon by millions. Please give your answer.

> >> > The wills of the grapes or vines are inconsequential.
> >>
> >> Not inconsequential, but _not free_.

So you say. With no proof whatsoever.

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