(Surely Matthew and Rufus have already responded better than I
can.)

dell12345 wrote:
> In the last phrase, "the human judge was theos" NOT "ho theos", will you
> translate the "theos" to God or god? Definitely, a Christian will
> translate the "theos" in the last phrase as "god"

Why do you say this? How many Gods/gods are there? One, right?
I suppose that Christians don't understand what you mean by "god",
since, as Muslims might say, there are no Gods but God.

> not "God" because if you
> translate it to "God" it means that you have two Gods and that the human
> judge is THE GOD.

That is the point, isn't it? That there is one God and the 'human
judge'
(in your example) is THE GOD.

> (This is the same with the Word was with God, If Word is
> God, then God is with God, this is wrong because there is only one God).

Again, isn't this the point?

Is the (small-w) word translated as "with" the confusion?


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basicallyblues wrote:

>
> >Christians, who believe in God as Trinity and Christ as fully human
> and >fully
> >divine,.
>
> no Christians in the 1st Century believed such idolatrous human
philosophy.
>
"no Christian" is an absolute declaration. To make such a declaration
you would be required to have intimate knowledge of not only every
major Christian father, but every Christian of the 1st C. Obviously
you are not omniscient so that pretty much reduces your assertion as
mere bravado.

Another assumption you make is that Trinitarianism is a product of
humanism. You seem not to understand the dynamics of heresy, the
chicken and the egg thing. Arianism was darkness. As both Gen and Jn
state, Light was before darkness. How many times did Jesus declare, "I
am?" Our English translation insert (and usually italicize) "he," to
make it read, "I am He." But the Greek does not state it so. Why 7 "I
AM" statements in John? Isn't 7 the number of God? And when circles
back to the OT references of those "I AM" statements, you will find
they point only to YHVH. The Jewish leaders clearly understood this,
even noting that Jesus had thus declared Himself to equal to God
(5:18). That Jesus did not correct their conclusion, that He never
once reprimanded anyone from worshipping Him (as angels do in
scripture), makes Him either Satanic in nature, teaching falsehoods, or
it make Him truly God. But you will receive none of this even as the
stiff necked religious leaders of Christ's day would not. "My Lord and
my God."

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