>*Father* is superior to the Son, yes. But God is God. The NT
>says that Jesus is God. It also says the Father is God. And it
>says that Jesus is NOT the Father. This leads to pretty much one
>conclusion (hint: Nicaea).

The only Biblical conclusion is that Jesus is "God" only in a qualitive
sense. Jesus *himself* called the Fther the "only true God" (John 17:3)
and called him "my God" even *after" Jesus was resurrected to heaven
and sat at God's right hand. As far as being called "god_ many were
called "god" and John's readers understood what he meant (unlike you
and other trinitarians). I'm tired of posting the examples- if you read
my other post you would clearly see that the rigid definition of "God"
in English has nothing to do with Hbrew or Greek in which the Bible was
written. Jesus being called "God" does NOT mean he was YHWH- he was not
part of a trinity as outlined at Nicea.

>Ignatius of Antioch (c 107)

First of all- as regards the trinity is is not "proof" one way or the
other what any follower thought following the Apostle John's death but
on the subject specifically about the trinity belief before 325....

Ignatius, a bishop of Antioch, lived from about the middle of the first
century C.E. to early in the second century. Assuming that all the
writings attributed to him were authentic, in none of them is there an
equality of Father, Son, and holy spirit.

Even if Ignatius had said that the Son was equal to the Father in
eternity, power, position, and wisdom, it would still not be a Trinity,
for nowhere did he say that the holy spirit was equal to God in those
ways. But Ignatius did not say that the Son was equal to God the Father
in such ways or in any other. Instead, he showed that the Son is in
subjection to the One who is superior, Almighty God.

Ignatius calls Almighty God "the only true God, the unbegotten and
unapproachable, the Lord of all, the Father and Begetter of the
only-begotten Son," showing the distinction between God and His Son.9
He speaks of "God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ."10 And he
declares: "There is one God, the Almighty, who has manifested Himself
by Jesus Christ His Son."11

Ignatius shows that the Son was not eternal as a person but was
created, for he has the Son saying: "The Lord [Almighty God] created
Me, the beginning of His ways."12 Similarly, Ignatius said: "There
is one God of the universe, the Father of Christ, 'of whom are all
things;' and one Lord Jesus Christ, our Lord, 'by whom are all
things.'"13 He also writes:

"The Holy Spirit does not speak His own things, but those of Christ,
. . . even as the Lord also announced to us the things that He received
from the Father. For, says He [the Son], 'the word which ye hear is
not Mine, but the Father's, who sent