gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:

>
> "Bart Goddard" wrote in message
> news:151.00.15.05.327696000@srcbs.org...
>>
>>> >>If Bob holds to predetermination, and Gary holds to
> free will, then
>> >>does it score any points against Bob that Gary's
> doctrine contradicts
>> >>him? And vv?
>
> Why is it that very great Theologians and Philosophers
> disagree
> with you?

This is funny. I ask a question and you say someone disagrees
with it. How can a non-statement be disagreed with?

That aside, some very great theologians and philosophers
also disagree with you. And they disagree with each
other.

> Could it possibly be that someone knows some things
> that you don't know?

The Dahli Lama disagrees with you, so I guess you must
be wrong.


> Aquinas, and many who follow him, and of course there
> are others that Matthew might name, taught the
> predetermination
> and free will are NOT contradictory.

I teach the same thing. To bad you've been too thick
to realize it.

Bart















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wilsonl035@hawaii.rr.com wrote:

>> The classic sign of the crackpot or charletan: "Only the wise can
>> see the emperor's clothes."
>>
>> Bart
>>
> And that is just an "excuse" for those who don't want to bother
> checking out the facts or are not smart enough to keep up.

No, it's just calling you out for your bravado.

> So, yes, the knowledge is "special" for the wise, but it's not
> exclusive. YOU can be wise if you wish.
>

I already am. That's why it's my duty to call you out.


> Not to put too fine a point on it, I might imagine that some of the
> foolish virgins were calling the wise virgins "crackpots" for
> insisting upon their added interest.


Crackpots always do this too. "They laughed at Einstein, they
laughed at Gallileo, they laughted at Newton, and now they're
laughing at me." Buddy, they laughed at Bozo the Clown, too.
Just because some non-heretic was called heretic doesn't mean
that everyone called a heretic isn't a heretic.


> And if it makes you feel any better,

This isn't about my feelings, it's about the crazy doctrine
you're espousing.




> I wonder how many people called the first-coming Messiah a crackpot?

That hardly matters here. The issue is whether _you_ are a crackpot.
We already know tha