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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:18:30 +0000 (UTC), lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:

>Mike Rhodes wrote:
>> Note: This post uses 2 Peter 3 as its reference. I had assumed this
>> was actually Peter's letter, but then found a discussion saying some
>> early authorities don't believe Peter wrote this. Having read that I
>> now tend to agree. It seems that the writer's purpose was to do war
>> against Paul's error, and may have assumed Peter's identity just for
>> that reason. Nevertheless, I agree with his reason, whether or not
>> Peter actually wrote it.
>>
>> But if Peter didn't write it then Peter didn't call Paul "beloved,"
>> nor his writings as "scripture," (both appear with some sarcasm).
>
>Ya, like that would evidence the fruit of the Spirit!

So that's your response? Weak sarcasm, and an empty claim on your
part.

It doesn't take much thought for a disinterested observer to come to
the conclusion that if one wants to defend their portion of
Christianity then all such as they must be convinced the Holy Spirit
is with them. But as you and I can see, there are many various
divisions, and some are really quite unusual; with Paul's teaching
taking a major portion of their foundation of theology. Paul is so
impressive! But it's Paul's word alone, mixed as they personally see
fit, in 'grace'. And "meek and lowly at heart" ain't in there.
Repentance has been pushed aside.

Oh they want grace so bad! This so they don't have to repent, or can
make their own decision on what is repent-worthy. So how free they
are! By the words of their solitary god.

We all have some sort of spirit in us. And we all have been
'inspired' by the most unusual things; even when we _know_ it is
_fiction_. So let's all get together and hold hands and make it
truth?! No, let's don't.

>I would suggest that you read, ""Palaeographical Dating of P46 to the
>Later First Century," by Young Kyu Kim. hester Beatty Papyrus
>II-University of Michigan Papyrus Inv. 6238-better known as P46,
>has been assigned a date of around A.D. 200 by most paleographers and
>NT textual critics. As such, it is the earliest manuscript of the
>Pauline corpus, originally containing 10 of Paul's letters (all but
>the Pastorals) and the Epistle to the Hebrews. Its text is an excellent
>representative of the Alexandrian type.

Meaningless to the argument, which is about the letter's _content_. I
really couldn't care less about approximations of date. And you are
being deceptive in pretending that it would make a difference.

>Though there are several implications of such an early date for P46.,
>only one need here to be noted, that being, that the problematic
>statement in 2 Pet 3:16 (viz., that the author k