"Matthew Johnson" wrote in message
news:145.22.23.05.882939000@srcbs.org...
>
>
> In article <145.14.14.05.310706000@srcbs.org>, Bart Goddard says...
> >
>
> >gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >>> And for the umpteenth time, it doesn't say _why_ they would have
> >>> repented.
> >>
> >> Yes it does. It says that they would have repented had they
> >> seen the miracles. Don't you understand simple English?
> >
> >No it doesn't.
>
> Yes, it does. It says they would have repented. This is made even more
clear in
> the parallel passage in Matthew, where He says:
>
> for if the mighty works, which were done in you,
> had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have
> repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. (Mt 11:21 KJV)
>
> > You're the one having trouble with English.
>
> Both Bob and Gary are doing this. And you are doing it too, when you
interfere
> with your groundless and nonsensical "No it doesn't". Of COURSE it does.
How can
> you deny it with the parallel passage in front of you? Is your English to
> limited to understand the use of tenses in the KJV of Lk 10:13?
>
> >You seem to think that "If A then B" means that A causes
> >B. It most certainly doesn't.
>
> Key word is 'seem'. But to claim that this really is the problem, you
would have
> to play mind-reader again, a game you play very badly.
>
>
> [snip]
>
> >The Bible says "If you repent and are Baptized, you will
> >be saved".
>
> No, it does not say that, either. Now it is you who is having trouble with
> English.
>
> >How on earth can you read into this that
> >repentence _causes_ salvation, and yet pretent that you
> >are 1. a master of the English language and 2. following
> >Scripture?
>
> >"If these miracles were done in Sidon, then they would
> >have repented."
>
> And this is what contradicts you. For it agrees well with Gary's "It says
that
> they would have repented had they seen the miracles."
>
> >_Where_ is the causality here? It's
> >not there, _you_ put it in. You put it in because you
> >can't trust God to save people, but insist that they
> >save themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> >> How do you explain Christ upbraiding those at Chorazin and Bethsadia
> >> for not repenting if they could not repent? Is this question simple
> >> enough?
> >
> >And Bob has answered it plenty of times.
>
> And poorly each time.
>
> >Where did you get
> >the very unscriptural idea that just because God gives a
> >command, man is able