lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
> Gary McNees wrote:
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>>lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
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>>>Your error is defining "when." Prior to the fall man had the
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> capacity
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>>>of the either or. But after he had shot himself in the head, he
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> was
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>>>dead. How does a dead man choose?
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>>Your definition of dead is false. The scriptures teach that the
>>unregenerate are "dead in sin."
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>>After Adam fell, and died spiritually, he still heard the voice of
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> God,
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>>and responded to it.
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>>So much for the unregenerate not responding to God.
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> As for Adam's response, what occured first? Didn't man hide first.
> Didn't God first seek out sinful man? What was fallen man's first
> response? It was humanistic religion -he thought he could cover
> himself.

Why ask questions which only go against your position?
What you write above fits perfectly with the non-Calvinist
position. God seeks out man while man is still unregenerate.
Man, runs, but God keeps seeking. Certainly all of us first
think "humanisticly." But God does something, something which
He promised He would do. And what was that?

John 16:8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and
of righteousness, and of judgment:

Now, of course, the Calvinist denies this verse. Well they change
it. How so? The Calvinist always reads such universalistic language
as untrue, because it does not "fit" their system. So in Calvinese
we read the above as:

John 16:8 "And when He has come, He will convict the ELECT of sin, and
of righteousness, and of judgment:

The fact that John makes it very clear here and in John 3:16 and John
1:29 "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold
the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." and in many
other places that by WORLD he means the world of lost humanity, doesn't
bother the Calvinist one whit! Just Change the word of God, add where
necessary, change where necessary, delete where necessary!

So Adam hid. Yes he did. But even his hiding was a response to God. Man
hears God. ALL men have heard, as the Psalmist and Paul tell us:

The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His
handiwork. 2 Day unto day utters speech, And night unto night reveals
knowledge. 3 There is no speech nor language Where their voice is not
heard. 4 Their line has gone out through all the earth, And their words
to the end of the world. In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun,

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God
hath shewed