"Bob Felts" wrote in message
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> Gary McNees wrote:
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> > For the Calvinist god certainly does not only speak lies, but acts
> > unjustly.
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> Who says?

God and me.

Gary


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In article <147.11.17.05.973253000@srcbs.org>, Bart Goddard says...
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Duh. Just pick a perspective and stick with it. If you
>want to be temporal, then you have to deal with God
>predetermining the entire course of history.

But this is not possible. This is WHY when people speak of eternal things, they
switch back and forth all the time between temporally bound language and
non-temporally bound language. But the latter always runs the danger of sounding
static, which it must not do when describing the activity of Providence.

So the result is that theologically accurate language about free-will,
predestination and the operation of Providence is ALWAYS fraught with paradox.
And if read too literally, it is even contradictory.

[snip]


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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est.
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zach wrote:
> lsend...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Sarah Kanary wrote:
> > > "Gary" wrote in message
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> > > > Sarah, you remind me of those who deny the holocaust!
> > >
> > > Since thousands of us were actually victims of it, that would be highly
> > > unlikely. What does 1 Cor. 5:11-13 mean to you?
> >
> > Sarah, the JfW's where not victims f the "holocaust" there were merely
> > casualites of war. Again, you refuse the strict understanding of word
> > definition.
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> Actually, JWs _were_ targeted by the Nazis and put into concentration
> camps, along with other political prisoners and malcontents. Their
> singular devotion to Jehovah had no place in Germany where the state
> was god. In his autobiography, Aushwitz Commandant Rudolf Hoess
> recounts the remarkable strength and devotion to their religion
> exhibited by JW prisoners, even to their deaths, which in his eyes,
> most seemed to welcome.
>
That, of course, is of historical record. But no where will you find
"holocaust" applicable to the JfW's. The term has come to be
te