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Gary McNees wrote:
> Bob Felts wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>
>>>Regeneration is required before man can spiritually appraise his position
>>>before God. It is also required before he can not only see his need of a
>>>savior, but that his Savior is, indeed, God Himself, "the Just and the
>>>Justifier."
>>
>>
>>Were I to put on my "Arian" hat, I wouldn't disagree with this.
>>
>>
>
>
> The first above is the Calvinist perspective.
> I am not sure whether an Arian would agree with it or not.
>
> BUT I certainly do not agree.
>
> Regeneration is NOT required for a man to appraise his
> position before God.
>
> This is simply the false doctrine of Calvinism/Reformed
> theology rearing its ugly head again.
>
> The Holy Spirit will John 16:8 When he comes, he will convict the world
> of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:
>
> Thus a man, an unregenerate man, must be convicted of his
> sin BEFORE he believes and is THEN regenerated by God.
>
> The idea that one must be saved before he can believe is
> just another heresy of Calvinism.
>
> Salvation comes THROUGH faith, faith does not come
> through salvation.
>
> Sincerely, Gary
>
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George Smith says
:
As I understand it, faith comes through hearing the Word and believing.

Which is correct? (or another answer)
1. All men are saved.
2. All men are saved who hear the Word and believe.
3. Only some men are saved because they hear the correct Word.
4. Only some men are saved depending on what they believe.

Sincerely, George Smith

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>
> Matthew Johnson wrote:
>
> >You do not understand this verse. He is talking about the
>_INCARNATE_ Christ
> >here. As Incarnate, of course He is part of creation. But
as God, He still
> >remains other than Creation.
>
> No Matthew. First of all, relying on the "incarnate"
exegesis is all
> too typical. The being that is "Christ" was "created" long
before his
> appearance on earth. Jesus of Nazareth was not "created"
at birth via
> Mary.

NO! Christ was not created.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day,
and for ever.

The Son of God exists from eternity. And He created ALL
THINGS!

Colossians 1:16 For b