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"Bob Felts" wrote in message
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> Gary McNees wrote:
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> > "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> > news:147.11.17.05.482513000@srcbs.org...
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> > > Gary McNees wrote:
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> > > > "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> > > > news:145.59.09.05.229919000@srcbs.org...
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> > > > > Gary McNees wrote:
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> > > > > > God is his nature. Hence God wills according to His nature.
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> > > > > Can God will to change His nature?
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> > > > No.
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> > > Then God doesn't have free will.
> >
> > Yes he does. I thought you would have understood this from what Matthew
> > wrote a while back.
> >
> > "As Anselm noted (see ch. 8), there is a difference between ANTECEDENT
and
> > CONSEQUENT necessity. If God wills the future to be a certain way, then
by
> > consequent necessity it must be that way. But God is free to not will it
> > that way. Hence, He has antecedent freedom with regard to what the
future
> > will be. God could have chosen to create a different world. But when God
> > decides to make a certain world His omniscience knows it will be that
way by
> > consequent necessity.
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> Which has nothing to do with what you said. This discusses God's will
> concerning creation. Your statement talked about God's will in relation
> to Himself.
>
> If you claim that God cannot will to change His nature then God does not
> have free will. The conclusion is inescapable given your premise.

I believe you are mistaken. Of course God cannot will to change His nature.
Any change in God would be for the worse since God is perfect. In fact,
since God has willed all that He ever will in eternity, He will not change
His will in anything.
But this does not prove that God does not have free will.

"Classical theists point out that what is willed freely can also be
necessary. Antecedent necessity that would eliminate free will differs from
consequent necessity. God's will has antecedent freedom. He could have done
otherwise. However, once He wills something, it must occur in the way He
willed it. There was no necessity that God will things as He did, but once
He freely willed them, it is necessary that they happen.

As to how free will can be identical to God's unchangeable nature, it can be
necessary to God 's nature that He do certain things freely, such as
create,. Likewise, His will can be free but still immuitable. What he freely
wills is willed immut